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Dance Music Thread (Techno, House, EBM, Disco, D 'n B, etc.)

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January 19, 2016 11:38AM
^Great stuff. That guy mingled with some of the great early pioneers of techno, Derrick May aka Mayday, DJs like Stacy Pullen, Carl Craig and others during the earliest "rave years" That's pretty advanced for 1996 if you think about it, it's 20 years old! old geezer



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January 19, 2016 12:00PM
^Oh yeah. I missed out on the whole rave era because I just wasn't interested in dance music at the time. Plus the scene around where I lived at the time was more focused on drugs than music. You had kids that were so out of it they would listen to anything that had a beat, no matter how shitty. Happy hardcore and all that, which I hated. I ended up catching some of the Detroit greats years later. By that time the rave scene had pretty much died and most of those guys were playing in "upscale" clubs and bars to a "grown up" crowd. There are still warehouse type parties occasionally in the area but nothing like back in the mid-90s. Not really my scene anyway TBH.

In terms of actual music production, I think the mid/late 90s were a GREAT time for Detroit techno and dance music though. People were stretching out, making albums, not just 12'' singles for the dance floor. Nothing wrong with the latter but I really enjoy the albums from this time period. Not just from the Detroit guys but other folks as well. What sucks is that the whole mp3-ization of music as well as the fading of dance music from the mainstream pretty much killed the demand for these guys to make albums. For example, Carl Craig STILL hasn't done a proper follow up to "More Songs about...". Who knows if he will or not. At least guys like Kenny Larkin, Rob Hood, and some others are still making albums as well as 12''s.

One thing that I think sort of killed dance music in the early 2000s was an over-reliance on software. A lot of that 90s stuff still sounds pretty fresh, because lots of outboard gear was used...it wasn't all done on software. At some point around 2003-2004 a lot of stuff started sounding the same. People using the same software, presets, plugins, etc. There are some exceptions obviously but the whole thing caused me to stop keeping track of dance music really. I need to go back and check out all the good stuff I missed.



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January 19, 2016 12:23PM
^I was a club DJ back in those days. Worked way too many years in a few clubs trying to work some of that kind of techno in a college town wasn't impossible, but it wasn't exactly easy either when half the audience wanted to hear "Friends in Low Places" by Garth Brooks or "You Shook Me All Night Long" by ACDC. I have played those songs so many times that I can tell you what chord is played if you name a random time stamp. Which by the way, is horrible useless information cluttering my brain, but there is no way to erase it.

Many of my friends were into techno\trance\D&B etc back in the day. That whole scene, the drugs, the raves, all of it. I was into it to a lesser extent, I bought the music, and I still own all of it today, and I dabbled in the drugs for a while, but really for me it was just grass and the music and beer.

Incidentally, I have huge collections of the stuff from that time period, some of it I've repurchased on vinyl that I have on CD. For example, I have every United DJ of America mix CD ever made, most of the Global Underground double mixes from back then, and full collections of all kinds of region specific and sub genre specific DJs. The trance scene is still alive apparently, and Techno is doing just fine but house music waned quite a bit I've noticed. Anyways, this is a huge diversity of electronic music we are talking about, and to be a completionist of any kind is pretty impossible.

Regarding what killed it, I think it waned significantly in some respects and the underground scenes kept it's heart pumping. And you mentioned the software, true, the tools for making the music are simple to use but you really have to have an ear to make it sound memorable. There is an ocean of mediocre homemade techno for free online that all sounds carbon copy. Finding the good stuff is hard because you have to push aside all the shit to find the good stuff and that takes a lot of patience.

Recently I have been borrowing records from my local record store that are all drum and bass from the first few years of drum and bass and Jungle and it's a privilege to get borrowing rights so I can try before I buy on a collection that basically doesn't exist for sale anywhere online. But I'm finding out a lot of it back in the day was very samey and it can be a chore putting on 10 records in a row that sound like cookie cutter remixes of the last song I played. On the 11th record, I get to the one guy that stood out and made something interesting, and I put that in my buy pile, that's what makes it worth the time.

Likewise finding this stuff online is a chore, constantly opening up Youtube and hearing that same 4 on the floor beat can quickly get tired. Yet when you land on the beat that grabs you, that's when it pays off.

Sorry, long speech. worried

TLDR: I hear you on "that period" of electronic music.



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January 20, 2016 01:37PM
^I bet that D and B collection is really interesting. Honestly an area I'm not too knowledgeable about. I still need to listen to some of the mixes you put up. One thing that's easy to forget, especially when coming from a "rock" point of view (which I am), is that a lot of dance records were just DJ tools and never meant to be listened to outside of a club environment in a DJ set. It makes sense that only certain records are going to stand on their own after all this time.



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January 27, 2016 05:19PM
Just saw this...Surgeon (UK Techno Producer) has a new album out.

Bleep Store Link w/ Soundclips

I didn't give his last album as much stereo time as it deserved but I still think he's one of the best techno producers out there.







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